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October 17, 2007

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Waddy

If you recall, Velonews pulled an April Fools on everyone when they announced this reality show about Chris Horner. I bit and emailed my brother-in-law excitedly, and he informed me that Velonews usually pulls an April Fools joke.

http://velonews.com/news/fea/11974.0.html

Yours sounds real. Here's hoping.

janann

Uplifting post - thanks for that :) And YES, thanks, danke, gracias for removing the oh-so-creepy OP pic!

Clicked on the Cyclingnews link and saw this headline on that page also -- "Boonen becomes comic book hero". Toooooo funny!!

Philip

Remember I get my shaving tips from Zabriskie!

Waddy

Philip, Was it you that told me you rode a Santa Cruz Superlight?

Waddy

CyclingNews has a story on the ongoing Ullrich investigation. Interesting assumptions are being made on the part of the German prosecutor:

"Apostel is investigating Ullrich for fraud, but not in his role as a rider for the former Team Telekom and as an employee of Olaf-Ludwig-Cycling GmbH, but rather for his supplementary contract as a public representative for sponsor Deutsche Telekom. He indicated that he assumes that the Deutsche Telekom board of directors was unaware of doping practices in the cycling team and did not condone them."

So now the German prosecutor is acting as a representative of the sponsor of the team, and is making the assumption that they did not know about doping practices. Perhaps they didn't, but that's a stretch considering the number of riders from that team in that era who have come out. Many of us have read "The Tour" by Shields. Fiction probably isn't that far from the truth. And since when does a pulic prosecutor become a rep of a major corporation. Shouldn't it be Telekom bringing this action forth on their own behalf. The Germans just blow my mind.

That said, I should include that despite his confession, like Sara, I have a lot of respect for Zabel these days, if for no other reason than his devotion to Zsa Zsa AND Allesandro P.

woofdawg

It certainly does smell funky doesn't it. But then, maybe the Germans are just riffing on the example set by the Americans. After all, recent events only seem to confirm that the the judiciary and the executive branch operate to further the interests of major corporations. OK, enough...I'll stop there, before I get a lather going...

On another, completely inane note, if you want to check out something you can sink your teeth into, check out the online version of Lewis Lapham's new magazine: http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/online_b.php. Lots of fascinating stuff.

Matt

Sara, great post today (as usual) and THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for getting somebody OTHER than Mr. Big Hands on the top of your page!

Woofdawg, I can't open your link..looks like it's missing something at the end.

Waddy, I ride a S.C. Blur...if by chance that is what you are thinking of??

And to just go off on a tangent here, regarding the TDF and it's history (from the book I'm almost done reading)... A quote from Henri Desgrange..the 'Father of the Tour' (the guy who invented the TDF):

"The ideal Tour would be a Tour in which only one rider would complete the ordeal". Now ponder that. He wanted a 'race' that was so freakin-HARD that only one guy might finish. Now I know that the Tours of today are much kinder to the riders than those past, which is a relative thing. Just because the stages are shorter and over better roads overall than in decades past, it's how hard and fast they ride it that makes it so difficult...in fact, probably more difficult. Maybe...it's just TOO difficult for squeaky-clean athletes to complete 'in good form'? The race has morphed into something that is won or lost by seconds, with the eyes of the world focused on you at any given moment. Tours past were won by HOURS (usually MANY hours).

MAYBE current athletic events are getting so difficult (to feed the insatiable appetite of the viewing audience requiring a spectacle of extreme sports) that very few athletes on the face of the planet can hope to complete them 'in contention for the win' without the latest in medicinal 'help'...which has been (or will be in the case of new variations) deemed inappropriate. Unless we don't mind 'viewing' less than stellar, lackluster (ie: boring) performances.

As to the current situation at WADA, (with Jean-Francois Lamour pulling himself out of contention for the head of WADA position), I'm not sure what that really means. He says he is pulling out as WADA isn't doing ENOUGH to combat doping. What exactly does he mean by that? That he doesn't like HOW they are doing business? That there should be MORE testing? Better testing? His withdrawal can be interpreted in many ways, not all of them good. (I could foresee full-on Senator McCarthy-esque witch-hunt tactics...YOU are guilty, give us 10 names or we will crush you, and you will NEVER race AGAIN!". Imagine something like that happening..surely it's possible, as WADA has no oversight. Scary, VERY SCARY!

Just some of my graveyard shift mental ramblings.

cat

woof, I can't reach your linked site. Can you repost?

cat

I can't wait to see CHRIS HORNER all the time! It would make me almost as happy, I did say ALMOST, as FL succeeding in sc***ing WADA. Er, I mean winning his appeal.

woofdawg

oops. didn't mean to type the periord on the end. Voila: www.laphamsquarterly.org/online_b.php

(or just google Lapham's Quarterly and go to the online option).

And scary is right. As in McCarthy, Stalin, the
Inquisition...

But I love the idea of a tour that's incredibly scary hard...but I don't think it's not the sort of thing that would fly with the sponsors. There probably wouldn't be enough constant action for the 5 second attention span of the average TV viewer--leaving it in the realm of Iditarod or Western States 100 sort of oddities. Way cool for people who are fiendish about the sport, but not accessible enough for most.

Waddy

Actually Woof, what you're wanting is along the lines of what was being suggested for the Tour Of America, but it would become an oddity because it's unlikely that most professional cyclists would participate. In this day and age, pro cyclists are counted on to engage in a busy season full of races. It's become a business, and most would see such a race as having little value. Your observation about the sponsors is absolutely true. And I doubt teams would be willing to have top riders spend a huge chunk of their season's energy on one race. As it is, many question whether today's Tour is too long, with many blaming the doping plight on races of such length. For riders trying to make a living and prolong their bankable careers, such races would prove foolhardy. But, like many bands I wish I had seen, I wish I could have witnessed such epics. Just for fun though, maybe we ought to start going out on our rides with a tube laced around our shoulders. Only problem is, I'm about to convert to tubeless tires. The 21st Century is a bitch!

Theresa

I laughed out loud at Tom's debut as a comic book hero!!

What was neat about the Paris-Tours race, was Eric Zabel was pumping his arm in the air as Petacchi threw his arms in the air!! So cool.

And DaveZ, Christian, and the Slipstream boys on a reality show is a KICK!! We better be able to watch it somewhere!!

Larry

I've been veering way off course lately, riding outside the peleton, swerving in and out of traffic, unpredictable - but in a literal sense. Today I'm turning over a new leaf. I will strive to stay on topic. Soooooo...... staying with Sara's theme of "Happy Place":

FIVE RULES FOR MEN TO FOLLOW TO A HAPPY LIFE:

1. It's important to have a woman, who helps at home, who cooks from time to time, cleans up and has a job.

2. It's important to have a woman, who can make you laugh.

3. It's important to have a woman, who you can trust and who doesn't lie to you.

4. It's important to have a woman, who is good in bed and who likes to be with you.

5. It's very, very important that these four women do not know each other.

I'm just sayin'.

As you were. ;-)

Barbara

Gee, Larry, the version I've seen was the opposite (for a woman to be happy...). Which makes more sense, because really, now, isn't it more likely to find a woman who has all that than a MAN who has all that?

Barbara

Present company excluded, of course...

Philip

Sorry Waddy I don't do dirt. I try to like mt biking but it doesn't work! Check out pezcycling for a guess of next years tour route. It is at the bottom of the eurotrash thursday.

cat

Philip: Huh?

Barbara: Right on! (I know, I'm dating myself) Er, You go girl! (Hate that phrase)

Sara: I love you.

Matt

Larry, if I just woke up anybody at the hotel, it's YOUR FAULT! (where do you find these 4 women...I"m just sayin...)

OK, here are some more ramblings from the deranged graveyard-shift mind.

Next time you hear the esteemed voice of our beloved Paul Sherwen, think of this true story from the 85 Tour (the excerpt I typed from 'Tour De France' by Graeme Fife):

At only 4km from the start he noticed one of his teammates headed for a collision. He grabbed his jersey and held him upright, which cost him his own balance and he crashed hard into a metal barrier. He got back on the bike with a heavily bruised back, and as the race Dr. was tending him another team launched a ferocious attack on Hinault, whose team reacted angrily and took up the chase. Two of Sherwens teammates fell back to pull him to the peleton, but he could hardly sit on the bike, and with pain in every spin of the cranks he couldn't maintain any speed. It soon became obvious that he wasn't going to make it, and told his teammates to go on and not risk themselves (this was at only 20km into the stage). When the 1st man finally crossed the finish, Sherwen was 40km out w/ a 1200 Meter climb to the finish. He was dogged all the way to the finish by the broom wagon (Sherwen said "having that truck behind me all day actually helped. That would be a very undignified ending...going out of the worlds greatest bike race by the back door"). He finally crossed the line 26 minutes OUTSIDE the elimination time, and it is a mark of the esteem in which he was held and the courage he showed that day, that in a gesture of flamboyant generosity the officials simply waived the rules and reinstated him. Never had a prize for the day's most combative rider been more richly deserved. Handing him a dry towel as he sprawled, exhausted against the team car, Sherwen's manager said "Paul, this is your yellow jersey". And next morning? Back on the bike Paul.

Talk about a guy who talks the talk AND walks the walk! I LOVE that story! Of such fortitude is the Tour made!

And just one more historical tidbit to amaze you from the book: in the 1920 Tour, Honor'e Barthelemy crashed, breaking his wrist and a bone in his shoulder, AND he lost an eye....(Say WHAT? Yes, he LOST a freakin EYE!) He battled on through six more stages and finished 8th overall in Paris. Just ponder THAT next time you are out on a ride and things are looking tough. Man oh man am I a WIMPUS EXTREMIS on the bike!

OK...I leave you back to your regularily scheduled IA bloguscussions.

Camille

Larry, you GO, boy! I'm just sayin' as you were. More coffee.

The sweaty one,

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