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June 13, 2007

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Julie

Well, this one's a few miles longer, but let's not forget the Tour of Hope, which saw about 20 cyclists go coast-to-coast (CA to DC) in seven or eight days!

The ToH, for the Lance Armstrong Foundation, took place each year of 2003-2005. The riders were split into teams of four or five, and the teams rode relay-style, 24-hours a day. Like this event, there were stops along the way to spread info and visit hospitals.

There was a fund-raising ride in DC, to welcome the team at the finish. I participated in that the last two years (we didn't get to ride the last year, but that's another story). The arrival of the team was an amazing moment each year, the joy and relief and reunions were overwhelming.

As far as getting people to sign up, you're right, that will be no problem! The ToH drew over 1,000 applicants, which grew each year. Including me! Never made it on a team, but I would've loved to!

I love Barenaked Ladies! Kurt Browning did a skating show with them playing live last year, it was awesome!

strbuk

It makes you realize that the problems most of us face each day are not much when compared to those brave kids who are starting out with such burdens to bear in life. Thanks for the reality check Sara!!

Paula

Camille

230 miles a day??? So, they *have* to be alternating people, right? It sounds to me like it will be whoever didn't make the teams for the TdF... whew! Greg and Woofdawg, I think Sara found another good ride for you!

CMehl

Thanks for sharing this, Sara--the cancer community is quite an amazing place for sure!

If any of you live on the route for RAAM, my friend Kathy owns a women's pro cycling team and four of them are doing the race. They are the only all women foursome and they are all over 50!!! They are the Kalyra Winery team and wear bright pink--watch for them and cheer on these awesome ladies!

Where is Susie B these days??

Speaking of Tour of Hope, Chris Brewer did it the first year (he is the editor of Paceline) and I volunteered at the start that year. I'd read his articles so went up to say hi and also emailed him while he was riding. That's how I originally met him, and that was the beginning of my relationship with DC as I'd write stuff for him from time to time. The rest is history....!!

catherine

OK, I haven't even gotten half way through the blog and I have to comment...

Not know BARENAKED LADIES???? What do you think we are, HICKS? (oh, sheiza, I'm turning into MS T or susieb, capitals and exclamation points. Well imitation is the highest form of flattery, I guess). I love the BNLs! They are AWESOME, and they have a sense of humor!

catherine

You know, about Lance.... I have never met him and probably never will. I certainly won't know him personally, though cycling is the kind of sport that makes you think you could if you wanted to. He is just, well, remote. He is handsome as all get out, and is an incredible athlete and strategist, but somehow I've never felt like he was a person I could warm up to, even with his cancer and commitment to that cause. His books, though telling a remarkable story, don't engage me on a personal level, or rather an intimate level.

It felt different when I met Floyd. He was WARM. He looks warm. Certainly they are different personalities, but what is it about Lance? Being an icon?

I had an interesting conversation with a friend about Greg LeMond. I said I just felt the guy blows his influence on the wrong stuff and I think he's whiney. Well, I got taken to task. My friend said what Greg did was incredible and was "the great American Hope" for many years and people should cut him some slack. A conversation ensued about how different it is when you really know someone, and not be so quick to judge. I argued that doing an incredible thing in your life (even a few incredible things) shouldn't relieve you of continued responsibility to support the sport you excelled in in a positive way. I don't think Greg does. Needless to say, we disagreed.

I expect a lot of people in high places. I figure, if you are on top of the heap, or the mountain, you have a better view, should see more clearly, and help the rest of us see that way too. Michael Jordan never felt that way, and I think it is a real shame, especially since he is African American; there aren't enough role models at that level for AA kids.

With great success and money, comes great responsibility, in my mind. Oops, maybe this is fallout from reading MD's blog on ethics first!

(the race sounds really great Sara....)

Theresa

Catherine, you echo my feelings, too. Regarding Lance and Floyd(although I've not met him yet!). Lance's charm is legendery, and he shows it when he wants to. But I regarded him as an icon at first. My first intro to Floyd, was with stage 17 of the 2004 tour. The racer that got me started with Pro-cycling; told me how Floyd was raised, and his background in mountain-biking. Then I read "Lance's Armstrong's War" by Daniel Coyle. That sealed the deal for me. I never did warm up to Tyler.

Your conversation regarding LeMond is interesting. I've never face to face met a LeMond supporter.:)

Theresa

Oh, and maybe I live too far south; but I've NEVER heard of the barebreasted ladies!!!!

Theresa

Oh, and go Greg, Paul and Matt!! That ride sounds PERFECT for you guys!!

Julie

Theresa! Bare*naked* Ladies! And they're all guys, btw. I heard them while living in Texas - I bet if you heard some songs you'd recognize them.

Gotta watch Rescue Me, I'll be back!

Theresa

I frustrated! I've been trying to post a comment at Bikes,brew & banter; and it's NOT happening!! And now I need to go to work!
Barenaked/barebreasted...what's the dif??

catherine

Shoot T, are you working nights???

Julie

Congrats to Greg on the ride, and to Theresa on the doctor's visit!

I saw a great documentary on RAAM a couple of years ago, Cathy, and there was a team of 70-yr-old guys, they were a hoot.

Catherine - I think Lance was like that before he became an icon, so I wouldn't put it on that. He obviously had a great mom, but had a hard life in other areas, and that chip remains on his shoulder. He can be a real arrogant jerk, but fortunately he has other redeeming qualities. Floyd, on the other hand, appears to have had a warm, stable childhood with the humbling effect of a large family and all those chores around the house. Right, who am I, Dr. Phil? ;-P

Julie

But what I was really going to say was, rough for the Americans at the Dauphine. Tommy D. is in the hospital getting tests on his illness. Christian Vande Velde is really banged up, but soldiering on. George got caught by his two-minute man, and Levi is trailing his main Tour rivals. Maybe they should check those fancy new Trek bikes! George said he was puzzled that he didn't place higher. At least DZ got third!

Not to be overly nationalistic - if Vino is clean, I'm delighted for him to do well. And I hate that I have to say that, but, two doped-up teams in his past, and the German doctor he just dropped, can't help but wonder. But, with Floyd in mind, I'll try to keep an open mind!

Petacchi, Piepoli, and Mayo, oh my. Apparently they're the three non-negatives from the Giro. But they may all get off on exemptions. I swear, someone's really got to do more research on this asthma thing - I want the dudes to be having an actual attack before they get to load up on the drugs! I'm sure there are legit cases, but I'm also sure there are plenty of guys who see it as a big fat free pass to get an edge.

Janann

Theresa I just about fell off of my chair laughing at your "Barebreasted Ladies"!! LOL!! They have good music and you probably have heard some of it without knowing who was singing.

That sounds like an absolutely INSANE ride! WOW! I loved your last paragraph about 'getting' what Lance stands for, Sara. He REALLY is inspirational to many and has done an incredible service by both inspiring and uniting the cancer community. They are absoLUTEly a force to be reckoned with! I know that he can be a very hard/harsh person (and as Julie said, an arrogant jerk)who seems to be as tough as nails, in his personal life, professional life, and public forums. I think that he was forced to become that person in order to deal with the challenges that he faced through his childhood, disease and his personal struggle to return to the sport. I remember some interview that I read with Coyle (LA's War) and he said that the thing that really surprised him as he got to know Lance was that he really isn't a "nice guy" in the typical sense of the word. As a person, he is himself a force to be reckoned with and I think that this inspires cancer survivors to strive for that which they thought they could never accomplish. Though I haven't been affected until the last few years by cancer among my close family and friends, I WAS inspired by his first book. It did touch me and left a lasting impression. I can completely understand why those who have children fighting cancer or are fighting the disease themselves look to Lance for motivation/inspiration!

I absolutely agree with you all about Floyd, though. You really couldn't meet a more gracious and humble guy!

Sorry this got so looooong. Had to make up for Susieb not being around ;)

theresa

No Catherine; I'm still working 3-11:30pm. It's just that I was sitting at my bosses computer, blogging. and Cindy came up and dumped orders beside me she had been putting in the computer. In other words, yes I was on the clock; had done my dreary report that I do every month on internal and external errors(wheeew!) So I was ignoring her, and didn't realize I had stuff to do.

I think Daniel Coyle's book gave a very accurate picture of Lance. I think that "you're not my DAD!!" really shows some insight. He acted out a lot as a kid; and Linda just devoted her life to helping him achieve and focus his competetive drive. But man, he knows how to hold grudges....I think he needs therapy; but then I feel almost everyone needs therapy at some time or another in their lives. It might have something to do with my early adult experience with therapy. Once you can start dealing with stuff, without the kind of judgement you get from other people; like your MOM, it becomes very important.

I don't think you guys know how un-schooled I am in current music...If I haven't heard it in spinning or exercise classes, I never listen to current stuff!

theresa

Are they Serevent exemptions? I haven't read it yet. I thought one was testosterone. Julie, you would not believe the rate of exercise-induced asthma in athletes. And I can't see Serevent giving any help to someone that doesn't need it. Seriously. The drug is a long-acting bronchodialator;BUT there is only so much you can go to increase oxygen that way, if a disease state isn't present. You'd get side effects on your heart and Cardio system, that I think an athlete would find uncomfortable. My asthma is so well controlled (with Advair, that's serevent and a steriod), that using a short-acting albuterol inhaler, does not improve my pulmo function, UNLESS; I'm getting on the bike or doing something strenuous. Then it keeps me from having problems start up. I could see a PLACEBO effect, that can be 30 to 50% depending on the drug class.

theresa

Oh, and Julie, they usually do have an asthma attack before they get diagnosed, but we don't see that once they are on Serevent. And, most docs just start with rescue inhalers; short-acting Albuterol that should be used before activity. Sorry, that's our lesson for tonight!:)

theresa

Hey, guys, Greg Moody is ready for the "Ride of the Rockies"; nothing I'm interested in after reading his column in VN; but it sounds straight up, Woofdawg, Greg, Matt, and Paul's alley. Have any of you guys done it? I think Floyd should!

Julie

Mayo is Testosterone, and he has a documented history of varying T/E, but it sounds like they're going to test for exogenous (and we all know how *that* goes...)

Petacchi and Piepoli have TUEs for asthma, the drug found was Salbutamol, which I guess is allowed, but only to certain levels - higher than that indicates abuse. And I guess it matters how you took it. From Cyclingnews:

"According to La Gazzetta dello Sport, the Barcelona lab will study if the Salbutamol found in the test results of Petacchi and Piepoli was inhaled or injected under the skin."

theresa

WHAT!!!! Injected under the skin?!!!! That is just stupid.
That really speaks to the article that VeloNews ran by the doctor; Richardson, wasn't it??

theresa

Okay, Piepoli said "he doesn't KNOW how much Salbutamol he took; because he takes puffs when he's having trouble". WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! 1 puff two times a day; that's it! If there is more problems; therapy needs to be added with a steriod, and a short-acting Albuterol inhaler. You don't go around puffing Serevent whenever. That's called "overdose".

Julie

You tell 'em T! :-)

Levi and DZ did well on Ventoux, woohoo!

Disco is in the hotseat over the ethics code thing, along with Caisse d'Epargne and SD, with pressure from the other teams for these three to keep riders out of the Tour. Things should get interesting next week! I still don't get why Johan felt the need to get several OP riders. Blind lust to get a winner? Who knows, but he had an unblemished team before, why risk it?

Matt

Well, I'm about 'outta here' on a 3 day weekend...my nephew graduates hs today...heading down south either this evening or tomorrow morning...we are going deep sea fishing tomorrow! Had an AWESOME ride last night...including about 16miles right along the coast...was a BEAUTIFUL afternoon...winds had shifted to offshore keeping the dreaded marine layer out, letting the sun shine in! Ahhh...ended up with 44 miles, 3100' climbing (on the way back I took 'the high road' for an extra 1000' and 10 miles of riding..was so nice I just couldn't let it end!) And when all was said and done, I had a new personal best for power output: 221watts average! (Pales in comparison to 'real riders', I know floyd puts out over 300 for over 6 hours if I recall...MAN that is a LOT!) There were 4 of us (including my friends daughter...30 yrs old, 3 kids...man is she tough! I had to hammer the first hill HARD to stay up on her...finally dropped her and was feeling all spunky...till on the way back when I found out she has a soccer game an hour AFTER our ride...and no, she's NOT the goalie!) DEFLATE EGO HERE! Maybe thats why I took the high road on the way home...to rebuild a LITTLE self esteem back into the void. She did however dust the other 2 guys on the ride...and she also has no idea how high I had to take my Heartrate to stay ahead and drop her...if she did I think next time she'd stay with me or pass me. With age comes wisdom...intimidate her now...and maybe she won't even TRY?? I can hope! Strange creatures we guys are...how it affects us to get passed by a girl...no matter HOW STRONG she is...still does something to our our fragile male psyche (sp?). As my friend (her dad) told me: she has had 3 kids...so the pain of a hard ride is NOTHING! Gads..how can we compete with THAT? I had a big splinter the other night...hey..it REALLY hurt!
So until Monday...LEATHER UP!

Theresa

Okay, I'm beating this one more time!! As the unofficial teams pharmacist, this is the way it should be! All cyclists with exercised-induced asthma should be doing this: Serevent/Advair puffer at the hotel, next to the bed or bathroom sink, in their jersey pockets should be a short-acting inhaler(there's 2-3 kinds) with A SPACER for them to use when needed will riding. The spacer is important because without it the patient only receives 17% of the dose, the rest stays in the mouth, or goes into the air. This should be mandatory! They can also be on oral meds like Singular. Now I've said my piece, the pharmacist in me is happy...:) This will be the last time today I bring this up!

I hope Matt enjoys the HS graduation, I'd forgotten how long they are! And I'm glad that gal gave him a run for his money!!

How about our DaveZ?? Is he not something special or what?!! He's no longer just a pretty face that can go fast in a straight line!! He can CLIMB too!!!

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